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General Category => General Discussion => Politics => Topic started by: DoveWithScales on Jun 14, 2023, 08:17 PM

Title: Back To The Old School
Post by: DoveWithScales on Jun 14, 2023, 08:17 PM
Well, every social media site is on fire, streaming services are eating themselves, and AI is an excuse for every major service provider to strip away what privacy we had left.

Tumblr nuking my blog was the last straw. I'm here now. Hi all.
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: Arthfach on Jun 14, 2023, 08:25 PM
Hello there! Welcome on in, again. :) Glad to have you and hope you enjoy it here; hope we can get some more folks around and get a nice comfy little community going on!
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: DoveWithScales on Jun 14, 2023, 08:27 PM
Now we need an otherkin section. If you build it, they will come.
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: Arthfach on Jun 14, 2023, 08:39 PM
Quote from: DoveWithScales on Jun 14, 2023, 08:27 PMNow we need an otherkin section. If you build it, they will come.

I can absolutely do that shortly! After my livestream I think.
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: Cipher on Jun 15, 2023, 03:05 PM
Quote from: DoveWithScales on Jun 14, 2023, 08:17 PMTumblr nuking my blog was the last straw. I'm here now. Hi all.

Nooo oh my god!! That's awful.
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: Arthfach on Jun 15, 2023, 03:08 PM
Quote from: Cipher on Jun 15, 2023, 03:05 PM
Quote from: DoveWithScales on Jun 14, 2023, 08:17 PMTumblr nuking my blog was the last straw. I'm here now. Hi all.

Nooo oh my god!! That's awful.

Yeah. You're unfortunately going to see a lot more of it as time goes on - all of these places got started with venture capitalist funds, and those investors expect a return on their investment. This creates a massive profit motivation and means they will be screwing over the users for the almighty dollar.

Honestly, you can see the signs of it in even more places - look at places like Discord, for example, where they're shoving in Clyde (AI) and starting to push the "community" servers and Nitro even harder than they were before. I expect that platform to become all but unusable in the mid term.
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: Abraxas on Jun 17, 2023, 11:14 PM
We weren't old enough to be a forum poster. This is a new experience for us, but a welcome one.
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: DoveWithScales on Jun 18, 2023, 01:15 AM
In that case, welcome to the club! This format doesn't have the addiction factor of the infinite scroll so it's genuinely healthier for us, on top of being able to get rid of the trolls and fascists completely.
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: Abraxas on Jun 18, 2023, 01:42 AM
Thank you! The lack of an infinite scroll is awkward for us, but it'll probably be healthier once we get used to it. We just have to remember to check for posts. 8 P
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: DoveWithScales on Jun 18, 2023, 02:17 AM
This was all we had back in the day so I'm readjusting quick. I might actually need to check the news now that I'm not getting it through Supernatural memes. But instead of scrolling Tumblr when I'm on my phone and need something to do, I'm reading PDFs of books.
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: Arthfach on Jun 18, 2023, 02:19 AM
I set up an RSS aggregator - I think you have access to it, Dove - and that's how I'm getting all my news.
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: Abraxas on Jun 18, 2023, 02:32 AM
Maybe using this more will help us get our brain rewired for reading. We need to read the Hannibal books.
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: Haven on Jun 18, 2023, 02:36 AM
I remember I tried using forums back when they were the main thing, and I was never great at keeping up w them. I was always better w chatrooms and IRC :/ I'm gonna give this an honest attempt tho, this seems like it could be a fun community :D
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: Arthfach on Jun 18, 2023, 02:56 AM
Quote from: Haven on Jun 18, 2023, 02:36 AMI remember I tried using forums back when they were the main thing, and I was never great at keeping up w them. I was always better w chatrooms and IRC :/ I'm gonna give this an honest attempt tho, this seems like it could be a fun community :D

https://irc.arthfach.com/ by the way.
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: DoveWithScales on Jun 18, 2023, 03:08 PM
Quote from: Arthfach on Jun 18, 2023, 02:19 AMI set up an RSS aggregator - I think you have access to it, Dove - and that's how I'm getting all my news.

Yep! I just have to decide what to put on it.

Quote from: Abraxas on Jun 18, 2023, 02:32 AMMaybe using this more will help us get our brain rewired for reading. We need to read the Hannibal books.

They're excellent! I read them like... twenty years ago?
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: Cipher on Jun 18, 2023, 04:08 PM
I spent my evening yesterday reading, which was much nicer than doomscrolling for sure. Some of this is also just my depression cycling out I think, fingers crossed I can keep it up and not burn out being too excited about having spoons?
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: DoveWithScales on Jun 18, 2023, 06:30 PM
Good luck. I'm working on a ground up website overhaul to get it to do what I want.
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: Shiloh (Bee System) on Jun 20, 2023, 04:50 PM
And I have offered you help, and yet you do not respond. Despite the fact I have experience with websites and code...

I'm still on Tumblr, and I have mixed feelings about the internet splitting again. On the one hand, I think the fact it congregated on about 5 websites was a bad thing, and created schisms that wouldn't exist. Splitting up again is going to allow things to be just... better? idk. On the other hand, internet historians and archivists are panicking because we're losing information in real-time, and it was also exceptionally convenient.

Discord is about the only thing I don't forget; I've had long hiatuses on Tumblr when I forget its existence. So I'm sure I'll forget about this forum eventually too, it's only a matter of time. And then I'll probably remember it and come back  ;D
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: Arthfach on Jun 20, 2023, 06:21 PM
Quote from: Shiloh (Bee System) on Jun 20, 2023, 04:50 PMAnd I have offered you help, and yet you do not respond. Despite the fact I have experience with websites and code...

I'm still on Tumblr, and I have mixed feelings about the internet splitting again. On the one hand, I think the fact it congregated on about 5 websites was a bad thing, and created schisms that wouldn't exist. Splitting up again is going to allow things to be just... better? idk. On the other hand, internet historians and archivists are panicking because we're losing information in real-time, and it was also exceptionally convenient.

Discord is about the only thing I don't forget; I've had long hiatuses on Tumblr when I forget its existence. So I'm sure I'll forget about this forum eventually too, it's only a matter of time. And then I'll probably remember it and come back  ;D

I have to say that the decentralization that's happening now does look pretty bleak and will really require us as communities to work together on things to alleviate the problem. For example, I use an RSS aggregator to track multiple forums at this point (since at least the big name forums have built in RSS feeds) as well as blogs and some news sites. But it's not the end-all-be-all answer - I don't know what is, but it's that sort of interoperability that we need to work for.

Is ActivityPub (Mastodon/Lemmy/Kbin/etc.) the answer? Maybe; I don't know. But at least it's an attempt...
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: Shiloh (Bee System) on Jun 20, 2023, 07:20 PM
I think ActivityPub is helpful, but I don't think it will be the final answer. It's still aggregation.

I think the RSS feed might be a good idea; a way to follow multiple places without the same centralization.
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: TheSovereignDragoness on Jun 26, 2023, 01:29 AM
Greetings all,

I joined here after DoveWithScales has announced they are leaving Tumblr. Forgive me if it takes a bit for me to reply, I'm not accustomed to using a forum. Hopefully I posted this in the right topic. If not, just let me know and I'll fix it.

-TheSovereignDragoness
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: Prophecy on Jun 26, 2023, 04:32 PM
Quote from: TheSovereignDragoness on Jun 26, 2023, 01:29 AMGreetings all,

I joined here after DoveWithScales has announced they are leaving Tumblr. Forgive me if it takes a bit for me to reply, I'm not accustomed to using a forum. Hopefully I posted this in the right topic. If not, just let me know and I'll fix it.

-TheSovereignDragoness

Welcome! We do have an introduction thread if you'd like to post there.
https://arthfach.com/forum/index.php?topic=3.0
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: dzamie on Jun 26, 2023, 08:01 PM
Quote from: Shiloh (Bee System) on Jun 20, 2023, 07:20 PMI think the RSS feed might be a good idea; a way to follow multiple places without the same centralization.
Myself, I use Mozilla Thunderbird as an RSS feed reader. Got separate folders and tags for YouTube channels, podcasts, a few tumblr blogs, and this forum (doesn't catch the NSFW subforum, but that just means I have to manually check every so often). It's very handy!
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: Arthfach on Jun 26, 2023, 09:12 PM
Quote from: dzamie on Jun 26, 2023, 08:01 PM
Quote from: Shiloh (Bee System) on Jun 20, 2023, 07:20 PMI think the RSS feed might be a good idea; a way to follow multiple places without the same centralization.
Myself, I use Mozilla Thunderbird as an RSS feed reader. Got separate folders and tags for YouTube channels, podcasts, a few tumblr blogs, and this forum (doesn't catch the NSFW subforum, but that just means I have to manually check every so often). It's very handy!

I did not know Thunderbird could do it! I actually set up a FreshRSS instance myself and am using that to keep updated with blogs, forums, and news. Its so handy indeed.
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: TheSovereignDragoness on Jun 27, 2023, 04:03 AM
Quote from: Prophecy on Jun 26, 2023, 04:32 PM
Quote from: TheSovereignDragoness on Jun 26, 2023, 01:29 AMGreetings all,

I joined here after DoveWithScales has announced they are leaving Tumblr. Forgive me if it takes a bit for me to reply, I'm not accustomed to using a forum. Hopefully I posted this in the right topic. If not, just let me know and I'll fix it.

-TheSovereignDragoness

Welcome! We do have an introduction thread if you'd like to post there.
https://arthfach.com/forum/index.php?topic=3.0

Thank you! Should I move the post I put here over to that thread or just write a new message there instead and keep my first one here?
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: Arthfach on Jun 27, 2023, 01:14 PM
Quote from: TheSovereignDragoness on Jun 27, 2023, 04:03 AM
Quote from: Prophecy on Jun 26, 2023, 04:32 PM
Quote from: TheSovereignDragoness on Jun 26, 2023, 01:29 AMGreetings all,

I joined here after DoveWithScales has announced they are leaving Tumblr. Forgive me if it takes a bit for me to reply, I'm not accustomed to using a forum. Hopefully I posted this in the right topic. If not, just let me know and I'll fix it.

-TheSovereignDragoness

Welcome! We do have an introduction thread if you'd like to post there.
https://arthfach.com/forum/index.php?topic=3.0

Thank you! Should I move the post I put here over to that thread or just write a new message there instead and keep my first one here?

You're totally fine! Feel free to write a new one there if you want to; no need to move this one.
Title: Re: Back To The Old School
Post by: TheSovereignDragoness on Jun 30, 2023, 03:22 AM
Quote from: Arthfach on Jun 27, 2023, 01:14 PM
Quote from: TheSovereignDragoness on Jun 27, 2023, 04:03 AM
Quote from: Prophecy on Jun 26, 2023, 04:32 PM
Quote from: TheSovereignDragoness on Jun 26, 2023, 01:29 AMGreetings all,

I joined here after DoveWithScales has announced they are leaving Tumblr. Forgive me if it takes a bit for me to reply, I'm not accustomed to using a forum. Hopefully I posted this in the right topic. If not, just let me know and I'll fix it.

-TheSovereignDragoness

Welcome! We do have an introduction thread if you'd like to post there.
https://arthfach.com/forum/index.php?topic=3.0

Thank you! Should I move the post I put here over to that thread or just write a new message there instead and keep my first one here?

You're totally fine! Feel free to write a new one there if you want to; no need to move this one.

Thank you! You are very kind.